AMiBA PROJECT WEEKLY MEETING MINUTES

Date:9 August 2001
Participants: K.Y. Lo, B. Martin, H. Wang, J. Peterson, M. Sinclair, W. Wilson, M. Kesteven, T.D. Chiueh, M.T. Chen, H.C. Lu, Y.J. Hwang, W. Ho, C.S.Lien, K. Lin, P. Shaw

Issues and Description
Action by Output
General
Fred mentioned that according the TAW8 meeting on science, a very strong message showed that we got to hurry up. As for the CMB polarization experimentation,we have to do it ASAP. He have been talking to Mike and Ravi about proposing a plan to build up from the prototype staged enhancements so that we can embark on CMB polarization measurement ASAP. It means, all the critical components needed to be done at faster time scale, including receiver, correlator, and everything else. May be we don't need all 19 elements and everything on line,
but we need to go through it. That's the background come up with what we are
dealing with. Tony Readhead is coming on the 21 August; so far he has still
not expressed his intention of collaboration with us on CBI. But Fred thinks
we can't depend on what he intend to do. So either way, Fred thought we need
to speed up what we need to do. Fred proposed to organize a meeting for all
of us to review what we are doing.
  Ongoing
MMIC
  1. Bob mentioned he had a phone conversation with Stacey about the InP HEMT foundry issue, and she feels we round and round a circular without a result. The bottom line is we need to get a definite plan what we are going to do for the InP HEMT foundry.As for the existing contract, Stacey expressed we can revise it if it is not enough,but we can not put on Sandy design on it, since that will change the contract and need to start all over. But if we want to do all in US then we have to come up a detail proposal; we want to have how many wafer chips, we want use some sort of design and how we get approval from them, who is going to do the packaging and testing, and any person who touch the wafer chips should guarantee he will not export. Jeff thinks the best approach is to follow what UMass did, and may propose the idea of UMass contract to Stacey to consider. So the next step is to figure out what we are going to do, for example, where to do the packaging and test. Fred suggests arrange another telecon to go over that issue ASAP.All agreed to have a meeting on next Tuesday morning 9AM Taipei time. Participants are Fred, Huei,Bob, and Jeff. Mal and Paul. Paul will follow up to set up the telecon connection ASAP. In the mean time, Huei will wrap up a proposal and send to everybody to look at in advance.
  2. Huei mentioned Todd told him today the four modules are ready to ship to us, and Todd also showed the test result to him. Todd also mentioned to him that Challis Laurence will meet Tom Prince this week, and he hope to get some answers back on the collaboration issue which Challis brought up to him in July.

H. Wang
P. Shaw

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

H. Wang

 

 

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Lag Correlator Hybrid
  1. Jeff mentioned there is one complete 17-element correlator based on mixers alumina, and they test today for the first time.The result is disappointing, they are not getting the response as they expected from the correlator. They are getting an average cross path band they want about 2% of the response they expected, and he don't know why the response so low. They have been doing a little discussion here about why they are getting such low response, and he is interested in the opinion from Warwick and others on why will be as low as it is. One could probably use these devices in a prototype correlator for using in testing the array, but that will require more drives than we are planning. So that will change our plan in the prototype correlator, it's not something he will consider for the full-scale unit of current condition just now response or not. He thought the best thing to do is for Warwick, him and Jeff Rapadas to have a separate discussion about where to go next. The basic idea is using the mixers in the delay line lag correlator, he thought it sound the mixer have single element mixer does have the frequency response we want, it does have low noise level we want, but our implementation there is 17 element correlator in the alumina is working out. So this brings out what the next step is. Jeff suggested set up a separate telecon to discuss the technical details with Warwick; he will summarize a plan for discussion in advance.
  2. Tzi-Da has come back from Switzerland, and has been showing up at this meeting. He mentioned he has read Warwick's comments of test on the CMOS output end chip, and he has also sent back a proposal to Warwick by email in yesterday. Tzi-Da will discuss with Warwick further by offline. Fred thought we need to set up a number of phone call to go over that area in details, and to come up with an action plan. Paul will follow up to organize the telecon to go over the correlator issues.
  3. Tzi-Da mentioned he will try to revise the existing chips to get it work, otherwise they need at least 3 to 4 months to get another new chips. For details, he will discuss with Warwick by offline.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

J.Peterson

 

T.D.Chiueh
P.Shaw

 

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Receiver    
Mingtang mentioned all components for prototype have been ordered and should be delivered to us on time, the only uncertainty is the OMT. So far NRAO did confirm us the shipping date for that. Mingtang will follow up to check the status with NRAO person. M. Sinclair Ongoing
IF/LO
  1. Leo mentioned he received some information from Warwick, and he has discussed this information with Pro.Chu as well. And they thought there is one point needed to clarify; that is how much input power required for the correlator? Since Prof. Chu will do the equalizer circuit, and we will integrate the amplifier to the equalizer. Pro. Chu is preferring to us a low power amplifier, and put it inside of the correlator, so that he don't need to package this amplifier outside the correlator.
  2. As for the power budget, Leo will send it to Warwick to look at after discussing with Mingtang.
  3. Eugene mentioned he tested three of the four photo mixers, and the test results were reasonable and identical with the test report of the manufacturer. However their performance were 10 dB lower than the theoretical modeling expected. He wrote an email to NRAO engineer for opinion, and he got some opinion and suggestion back on how to adjust the test procedure in order to improve the test result. So he will follow this suggestion to re-test those photo mixers.
  4. As for integrating the tunable lasers with the fiber output, Eugene mentioned he just starts to make a coupling from the laser head to optical fiber. He will get more technical data from the manufacturers in order to find a way to get a reasonable the coupling. And he is respecting the coupling efficiency will be as high as 70%.

H.C. Lu

 

 

H.C. Lu

Y.J. Hwang

 

 

Y.J. Hwang

 

 

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Platform/Mount/Dishes
     
Computer control ,software
Mike mentioned the software board for prototype should be completed in a couple of weeks. M.Kesteven Ongoing
Site Acquisition
Bob mentioned we need to come up with a proposal to contribute something for using the site at Mauna Loa. B. Martin Ongoing
Next Meeting
7:30pm EDT,8:30am Taiwan, 10:30 Australia, 4:30pm Tucson/Thursday/ 23 August 2001